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sides senate to build on those efforts. >> what do you think happened at that gop retreat? schumer made jokes yesterday they had soft music and massages and so forth. but why -- do you feel that they took a step back in demanding one for one and giving us these three months to address reform? >> i'm not sure i can anticipate what happened at the retreat, but i do think there's a sense of urgency to deal with a lot of major fiscal challenges that we have. i think that's bipartisan. i think it comes to the question of default, democrat or republicans, you have to weigh the consequences, the gravity of fee fault and as verse impact you could have. i think that was part of what was discussed at their retreat, good development. i don't like the fact that we have another challenge coming up in may, but this is certainly preferable to a late february or early march fight that would be -- that would be very difficult. >> yeah. a couple nitty-gritty questions. obviously, a lot of investors still reeling from all the debate over a dividend tax, carried interest tax to what degree do you think tho
. chuck schumer this weekend says, trust us, we're going to pass a budget. they haven't passed a budget in the last four years. so this bill today moving out of the house will force the senate to act, which is something they have not done in the past four years. >> right. finally, congressman, for the most conservative republicans who say even a three-month extension to may 19th is wrong, are you trying to back them off of that ledge and say we need to speak with a unified voice and at least get this done even if it is a short term? >> yeah. look, i think the reason why jim jordan, the former chairman of the roc, the current chairman of the roc, the republican study committee that's the most conservative members of the republican chamber, they have all endorsed this because they realize that if you really want to fix the debt, if you really want to cut spending, you have got to do big things. it can't just be little cuts here and there. so they agree with the strategy here, which is really to move beyond the debt limit discussion right now that we're having and get to the budget discuss
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